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resembling the presidential election of 1980. who can forget incumbent democratic president, jimmy carter, republican challenger, ronald reagan. from the economy to volatile events in the middle east, how some analysts are now comparing these two races. james rosen is in washington with more on that. hi, james. >> reporter: gregg, good afternoon. a fault line of sorts has emerged in gop and conservative circles over how similar the 2012 cob test is to that -- contest is to that of 1980. 32 years ago republican ronald reagan survived a primary battle and went on to defeat the incumbent democratic president, jimmy carter, by more than nine percentage points n. final week of october, carter was enjoying a lead up from four points the week before. then as now the democratic incumbent painted his gop challenger as a heartless tool of the rich, someone who couldn't be trusted with the world's most difficult job. among those seeing striking similarities between 2012 and 1980 is r. emmetter the ril, the founder and editor of "the america
resembling the presidential election of 1980. who can forget incumbent democratic president, jimmy carter, republican challenger, ronald reagan. from the economy to volatile events in the middle east, how some analysts are now comparing these two races. james rosen is in washington with more on that. hi, james. >> reporter: gregg, good afternoon. a fault line of sorts has emerged in gop and conservative circles over how similar the 2012 cob test is to that -- contest is to that of 1980....
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they can have an incredible impact on the november election. we'll have a look at some of the most memorable moments should president obama or mitt romney be worried in? which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefit
they can have an incredible impact on the november election. we'll have a look at some of the most memorable moments should president obama or mitt romney be worried in? which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my...
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every year they say, next year is an election coming up. hello? of course there is an election coming up because that's the way the united states constitution is. every two years we have an election. >> gretchen: republicans put together a budget and harry reid has not put together a budget and the president's budget was voted down unanimously a no. >> steve: it's a great book, check it out. it's out right now by governor arnold schwarzenegger. >> brian: last question, did president obama ask you to be energy secretary? >> we have had discussions about helping and i don't get into the details of what the discussions were. because they were discussions. but we did talk about working together on some of those issues that i feel very passionate about. environmental issues. >> steve: you would have been good because you have a lot of energy. >> thank you very much. >> gretchen: thanks. are you ready for a flashback? one of the greatest female pop duos next. >> brian: let's check in with bill hemmer. >> i'll be back, too, by the way. can we drop that l
every year they say, next year is an election coming up. hello? of course there is an election coming up because that's the way the united states constitution is. every two years we have an election. >> gretchen: republicans put together a budget and harry reid has not put together a budget and the president's budget was voted down unanimously a no. >> steve: it's a great book, check it out. it's out right now by governor arnold schwarzenegger. >> brian: last question, did...
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of just right approach, but by that time, those performances and all the other factors in the 2011 election held him back. >> how important is humor? >> it can be very important, but it's something that has to -- i guess some humorous lines probably are prescripted. there you go again by reagan most people feel w prepared. that, of course, is the magic. >> remember what lloyd benson said about dan quayle and president kennedy. >> yes, that was the famous line, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> in jim lair's book "turning point," he makes the case that they prepared that line in advance because dan quayle had made that comment over and over again. >> the comparison with president clinton. >> so both those campaigns are going in with prescripted lines having watched what the other candidates are saying. >> it's worth noting that mitt romney has been debating over the past two years with his opponents. president obama has been practicing, no doubt, but it's harder for a president to do because he's busier and doesn't like being addressed in a challenging wa
of just right approach, but by that time, those performances and all the other factors in the 2011 election held him back. >> how important is humor? >> it can be very important, but it's something that has to -- i guess some humorous lines probably are prescripted. there you go again by reagan most people feel w prepared. that, of course, is the magic. >> remember what lloyd benson said about dan quayle and president kennedy. >> yes, that was the famous line, jack...
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even though we disagree, i think it was really important to have the point of view of the 57 other elected d.a.'s in the state. i think it's important to understand in our dialogue so marty, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> marty is someone i respect a great deal and he has been involved in public safety for a number of years and doing very momably serving the l.a. city attorney as well as his current position. actually, for me this has been a journey, it's not like a light switch went on yesterday. i have been involved in public safety for about 30 years. i have seen the war on drugs from the ground up. i have seen it as a police officer, young police officer walking, foot beat in south central and east l.a. i saw the revolving door, the impact that that revolving door was having in many communities and as i rose through the ranks, i began to take a different look at the way we dealt with crime and the way we dealt with public safety and as i evolved throughout the years, i came to the conclusion that what we had been doing with the war on drugs was leading us in the wrong direc
even though we disagree, i think it was really important to have the point of view of the 57 other elected d.a.'s in the state. i think it's important to understand in our dialogue so marty, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> marty is someone i respect a great deal and he has been involved in public safety for a number of years and doing very momably serving the l.a. city attorney as well as his current position. actually, for me this has been a journey, it's not like a...
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. >> i am the president elect of the bar association. we're very proud to co-sponsor the justice of it. on behalf of the 8000 members, and all of those who -- dedicate their careers -- we are very fortunate to have his leadership with top-notch legal representation. for those who were charged each year who are innocent. an important part of the mission is providing equal access to justice. this is shared by his office and all the public defenders. we're proud of the conflict panel that he described, and we also provide the top-notch representation in matters that his office cannot handle. we applaud you for what you do and for those of you who could not make it, thank you very much. this year's public defender simon will be an interesting day, full of cutting edge issues. gang violence and brain science and crime, these are issues at the forefront and deserve all of our attention. this is a greatat>> your going p with me because i liked to wander around and see faces. you have learned more about me that a lot of people know. for the last
. >> i am the president elect of the bar association. we're very proud to co-sponsor the justice of it. on behalf of the 8000 members, and all of those who -- dedicate their careers -- we are very fortunate to have his leadership with top-notch legal representation. for those who were charged each year who are innocent. an important part of the mission is providing equal access to justice. this is shared by his office and all the public defenders. we're proud of the conflict panel that he...
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i would like to recognize the department heads and elected officials. i know i've seen some of you here. thank you for coming out to support the fund workover our city employees. it is a privilege to me in particular to be here because i have had the opportunity for the last several years to be on the selection committee for the good government awards. it is really a treat. as a human-resources director, i get a lot of bad news. some of that gets in the newspaper. with all due respect to our brethren in the press, it's always a good story to write about bad behavior that may happen in a city department or that a public employee may have engaged in. we are the largest employer in san francisco. it is only natural as some of that bad behavior may fall on our doorsteps. it is refreshing to see some of the wonderful work people are doing, who really personify the ethos of san francisco. i want to celebrate that. on behalf of the mayor, thank you. please do your part to extend your appreciation to those people. it was a very difficult process. the community
i would like to recognize the department heads and elected officials. i know i've seen some of you here. thank you for coming out to support the fund workover our city employees. it is a privilege to me in particular to be here because i have had the opportunity for the last several years to be on the selection committee for the good government awards. it is really a treat. as a human-resources director, i get a lot of bad news. some of that gets in the newspaper. with all due respect to our...
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this district election is really important. i am proud to be here. this is a great organization. we have nine candidates and hello everyone. it's a pleasure to see everyone in the beginning and hopefully they remember me later. the way it will work is the candidates will have one minute that you submitted. i have four questions to start with, plus the league will have their own questions and we invite you to get your questions and someone will get them. the questions have been submitted on the leauge of women voters website and every candidate is going to answer every question, so now we have time keepers. our time keepers, our lovely time keepers are out in front here and they will hold up a yellow card to signify to the candidates have third seconds remaining and a red card when it's time to stop and we ask that everyone be respectful,y -- no booing and no hissing and we want to stay on the time line and you have important decisions to make on november 6 so this will give you an opportunity to have your candidates heard. all right. so we're going to begin -- it's alphabetical o
this district election is really important. i am proud to be here. this is a great organization. we have nine candidates and hello everyone. it's a pleasure to see everyone in the beginning and hopefully they remember me later. the way it will work is the candidates will have one minute that you submitted. i have four questions to start with, plus the league will have their own questions and we invite you to get your questions and someone will get them. the questions have been submitted on the...
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as an elected official, he is entitled to his own opinion. >> thank you. i have to say that, i want to think marty for coming here. he knew he was coming into this. i want to repeat. i am in the minority in the association. i think concerning this item, it is important for me and all of us to recognize there are ballot points of view. if we're serious about developing solutions that work for all of us, we have to entertain those points of view and tried to reach consensus. that is the only one that we will create a workable, sustainable solutions. all we're doing is spinning our wheels. my reason for being here is because i truly have come to the conclusion that it is not only based on years on the ground operationally but years of working on development of public policy, working with state governments and justice and lower in corp. -- incarceration and working with other people. a variety of settings. i do not believe that incarceration has taken us where we need to be. i believe the war on drugs has been a failure. when we institutionalize people over ex
as an elected official, he is entitled to his own opinion. >> thank you. i have to say that, i want to think marty for coming here. he knew he was coming into this. i want to repeat. i am in the minority in the association. i think concerning this item, it is important for me and all of us to recognize there are ballot points of view. if we're serious about developing solutions that work for all of us, we have to entertain those points of view and tried to reach consensus. that is the...
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and which non-citizen residents should be allowed to vote in those elections? >> the harsh reality is that so many non-citizens still have children in our public schools here in san francisco, throughout the state of california and throughout the united states. as all of you undoubtedly know. with that being said, it's vitally important that those parents still have a say in the education of their children. i would certainly support and promote voting by those parents in school board elections in san francisco. by implication own a community college election would fit in that rubric, to support college advancement to people who have traditionally been put at the margins of our society. in those two elections, i think, are the most fundamental in the sense that they go to the root of advancement in this country and the obtaining of the american dream. so the school board and community college board i would certainly support that. >> thank you, miss olague. >> i don't think there is much to add to that. i know a couple of years ago there was a ballot measure that
and which non-citizen residents should be allowed to vote in those elections? >> the harsh reality is that so many non-citizens still have children in our public schools here in san francisco, throughout the state of california and throughout the united states. as all of you undoubtedly know. with that being said, it's vitally important that those parents still have a say in the education of their children. i would certainly support and promote voting by those parents in school board...
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. >> there is is a worker at the local board of election that's notice aid problem, signatures didn't match up and some had information simply made up. >> and last week, the election workers in florida noticing similar problem was voter registration forms, many submitted by a firm hired by republicans and the florida g.o.p. fire that had agency and now, north carolina g.o.p. is following suit. >> there is american airlines says it's found the cause of tests in major jets. >> retailers hoping for a green christmas. holiday shopping outlook, ahead. >> taking a look at traffic now in san francisco. this is really jammed up for drivers and for people heading out of san francisco south looking smooth now >>> taking a look outside right now there is a view of oakland atop mount sutro. highs soared to 93 degrees and spencer christian is coming up with the accu-weather forecast. >> american airlines says improperly installed clamps caused seats to come loose on planes and it's now expanding inspection of jets. there is concern it could be connected to a labor dispute. >> american air lines in
. >> there is is a worker at the local board of election that's notice aid problem, signatures didn't match up and some had information simply made up. >> and last week, the election workers in florida noticing similar problem was voter registration forms, many submitted by a firm hired by republicans and the florida g.o.p. fire that had agency and now, north carolina g.o.p. is following suit. >> there is american airlines says it's found the cause of tests in major jets....
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elections. but i can state my own desires. i think, i think that the current situation between iran and the u.s. is to both parties disadvantage. there is certainly much room for improvement. why should the u.s. government be in conflict with us i haven't really been able to understand this so far. and i'm a political person. has the united states government have any gains, i'm not saying we have had any gains. no, we certainly didn't have any gains. why should we be in conflict with each other this is a serious question. >> rose: it's a very serious question. >> after all the american politicians should sit down and answer this question. why should we disagree with one another. >> rose: and i will ask them but what about your side? what can you do, what are you prepared to do, what changes have you made in terms of your attitude about the united states. your willingness to meet them halfway? >> you personally, you personally know that i have taken some big steps. and i'm to the going to repeat them. but i think that many good
elections. but i can state my own desires. i think, i think that the current situation between iran and the u.s. is to both parties disadvantage. there is certainly much room for improvement. why should the u.s. government be in conflict with us i haven't really been able to understand this so far. and i'm a political person. has the united states government have any gains, i'm not saying we have had any gains. no, we certainly didn't have any gains. why should we be in conflict with each other...
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to an election,chie understand close to an election. as soon as the election's over, they have to th the responsibilo get back together and solve the problems rather than saying, oh, we can't touch that, because in two years from now there's another election coming up. that's been the worst thing. i just think they're not living up to their responsibility. and the people of america should really be outraged about that, that nothing is getting done, and it's getting more and more polarized. >> sean: it's still in your blood, i can see it. you don't get politics out of your system. >> no, no. look, it's blocks, but for me i never really liked politics, but being a public servant. i think it's the greatest thing. my father-in-law talked about being a public servant is the ultimate kind of service, the ultimate job that you can have. he was absolutely correct, because to me there was nothing more satisfying than to be in sacramento, to solve problems, work with everyone together, bring everyone together, and to just chip away, keep solving
to an election,chie understand close to an election. as soon as the election's over, they have to th the responsibilo get back together and solve the problems rather than saying, oh, we can't touch that, because in two years from now there's another election coming up. that's been the worst thing. i just think they're not living up to their responsibility. and the people of america should really be outraged about that, that nothing is getting done, and it's getting more and more polarized....
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best election. >>trace: the judge rules it could cause people to lose their right to vote but did not expound on that. what was the intent? >>guest: the judge said, we are not going to have voter problems if you require an i.d. on reconsideration, and in talking to a number of voters who had trouble getting an i.d., he said well, maybe not this time around is what happened here leaving on the prospect for enforcing this in future elections. something on the order of 89,000 people in pennsylvania would nut have had the proper identification before, which is 1 percent of the voters, would not have had the proper identification for this election, is the tally. the judge said, let's hold off and not have it in force this go around. >>trace: sow think it is fair to wait until after the election and they can battle it again. >>guest: the republicans are disappointed and the democrats said it would unfairly hammered the poor, most likely, from going to vote. they tend to vote democrat. again, you could ima
best election. >>trace: the judge rules it could cause people to lose their right to vote but did not expound on that. what was the intent? >>guest: the judge said, we are not going to have voter problems if you require an i.d. on reconsideration, and in talking to a number of voters who had trouble getting an i.d., he said well, maybe not this time around is what happened here leaving on the prospect for enforcing this in future elections. something on the order of 89,000 people in...
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. >> reporter: an election only 35 days away but still far from over. and the first debate is on the domestic issues that are defining this election. lynn? >>> brian moore in washington. brian, thanks. >>> well, elsewhere, the candidates for the u.s. senate seat in massachusetts, scott brown and elizabeth warren, debated for the second time last night. the two were combative as they staked out opposite positions on issues ranging from creating jobs to bringing troops home from afghanistan. with nbc's david gregory of "meet the press" as moderator, they also clashed over brown's claim of partisan independence. >> if he's re-elected, that increases the odds that the republicans will control the senate and that he can block president obama's agenda. >> if you're going to comment on my record, i would at least have you refer to it -- >> can we just -- >> excuse me. excuse me. we're not -- >> go ahead, senator. >> excuse me. i'm not a student in your classroom. please let me respond, okay? thank you. >> well, recent polls before the debate showed elizabeth w
. >> reporter: an election only 35 days away but still far from over. and the first debate is on the domestic issues that are defining this election. lynn? >>> brian moore in washington. brian, thanks. >>> well, elsewhere, the candidates for the u.s. senate seat in massachusetts, scott brown and elizabeth warren, debated for the second time last night. the two were combative as they staked out opposite positions on issues ranging from creating jobs to bringing troops...
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. >> reporter: an election only 35 days away but still far from over. and the first debate is on the domestic issues that are defining this election. lynn? >> all right, brian, thanks. >>> elsewhere, the candidates for the u.s. senate in massachusetts, scott brown and elizabeth warren, debated for the second time last night. the two were combative as they staked out opposite positions on issues ranging from job creation to bringing home troops from afghanistan. nbc's david gregory of "meet the press" was the moderator, and they also clashed over brown's claim of partisan independence. >> if he is re-elected, that increases the odds that the republicans will control the senate and that he can block president obama's agenda. >> if you're going to comment on my record, i would at least have you refer to it -- >> can we -- >> excuse me, excuse me. >> go ahead, senator. >> excuse me, i'm not a student in your classroom. please let me respond. thank you. >> recent polls before the debate showed elizabeth warren with a small lead over scott brown. >>> and last
. >> reporter: an election only 35 days away but still far from over. and the first debate is on the domestic issues that are defining this election. lynn? >> all right, brian, thanks. >>> elsewhere, the candidates for the u.s. senate in massachusetts, scott brown and elizabeth warren, debated for the second time last night. the two were combative as they staked out opposite positions on issues ranging from job creation to bringing home troops from afghanistan. nbc's david...
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down to election day. in these battleground states across the country, so i think that you know, what you're saying is that bounce that president obama had coming out of the democratic convention has gone away. it's dissipated and more americans are looking at the romney ryan ticket as one that will address issues and will deliver a plan that has impact on middle class americans, that will bring down taxes for all americans. period. there's only one candidate that's actually talking about raising taxes and there's another candidate, the romney ryan ticket, that will cut taxes for all americans. so i think as we go into this, we'll hear a lot more of that. obviously at the debate and this is the next phase of that campaign. >> mitt romney leads according to our poll, on unemployment and the deficit. let me ask you this, ben, because one thing our viewers may assume is that democratic base is now energized and the convention is now partly responsible for that. recently, jim -- our new poll, how do you feel s
down to election day. in these battleground states across the country, so i think that you know, what you're saying is that bounce that president obama had coming out of the democratic convention has gone away. it's dissipated and more americans are looking at the romney ryan ticket as one that will address issues and will deliver a plan that has impact on middle class americans, that will bring down taxes for all americans. period. there's only one candidate that's actually talking about...
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. >>> but first, five weeks until the election and one day before the crucial presidential debate. >> both candidates are working on their last-minute preparations for their first face-off tomorrow night. abc's karen travers is joining us this morning with a preview of the debate. good morning, karen. >> good morning, rob. good morning, paula. it's been very quiet on the campaign trail as president obama and mitt romney hunkers down and prepares for wednesday's debate. a new abc news/"washington post" poll shows a very tight race. so both campaigns see tomorrow night as a big opportunity. this presidential campaign has been going on for nearly two years and finally it's debate season for the nominees. the time when americans seem to really start paying attention. president obama's rehearsing with senator john kerry and mitt romney is squaring off against senator rob portman. both candidates have challenges and checklists. president obama's working on shorter answers, trying to avoid sounding like the professor he was before the white house. democrats say he needs to look strong and fo
. >>> but first, five weeks until the election and one day before the crucial presidential debate. >> both candidates are working on their last-minute preparations for their first face-off tomorrow night. abc's karen travers is joining us this morning with a preview of the debate. good morning, karen. >> good morning, rob. good morning, paula. it's been very quiet on the campaign trail as president obama and mitt romney hunkers down and prepares for wednesday's debate. a...
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this election, we're not electing bankers hours to cover it. we're all over it. in atlanta -- >> neil: that's not necessary. >> neil: kiley, three words, i told ladies this in high school. "built for comfort." it didn't get me anywhere but i have two more. starting tomorrow. 8:00 p.m. fox business. network that bret baier himself is on. it's gotten the point where my buddy bret now dvr himself. it's true. see for yourself. you are always front and center at fox business. we're not just about earnings but earning your respect. respect what we're earning and paying. no debate. th.the commitment will continue tomorrow. see you in denver with a list of names. the movers and the shakers in the financial world. added extra you get. the foreign markets responding to the debates. it's an interesting read on how they read us. you can only get that on fox business. because it's pro priortary. i don't share it with anyone. all the markets are talking just to me. okay. but by and large, they are. we mean it when we say it. it's your money, your mission. like i say, everyone
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board of supervisors meeting regarding the ousting or the possible ousting of sheriff ross mcarimi, an elected official here in the city and county of san francisco. while i recognize some of you as honorable, supervisors, there are a few of you that are lackies for the mayor. whether you want to recognize it or look at me or not and realize you're occupying his old district and things like that. these are things that you have to realize. what kind of people are watching. not only san francisco. i do a radio talk show, it's heard across the country and around the world on the armed forces network. and i get e-mails saying what's going on in san francisco? what's going on in san francisco? this is the biggest case of political assassination since 1978 when harvey milk and george moscone i were taken out by an insane dan white. i mean, if you want to be the mayor's lackey, go ahead, be the mayor's lacky. you know, oust ross if you think he committed official misconduct. a lot of people don't feel that way. former police officers spent nine years with the sfpd. i wrote curriculum for the sf board
board of supervisors meeting regarding the ousting or the possible ousting of sheriff ross mcarimi, an elected official here in the city and county of san francisco. while i recognize some of you as honorable, supervisors, there are a few of you that are lackies for the mayor. whether you want to recognize it or look at me or not and realize you're occupying his old district and things like that. these are things that you have to realize. what kind of people are watching. not only san...
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from the union to the elected officials, backed the unions, back to the elected officials, and it is amazing how the money goes. $14 billion, that is the economy of a lot of countries, that is what the union is take in a year. ashley: this is interesting, they would bar unions from contributing to payroll deductions raising money for political campaigns, corporations as well. it doesn't have any impact on them, this is a direct attack on unions, what is your say on prop 32? >> it is a great start. ashley: not the way the unions paint it. >> they say they spend 10 times the amount of money in terms of soft dollar get out the vote, issue advertising, that is not covered by this. the unions themselves say that. ashley: and it shows. do you think this is going to go anywhere? >> it has been voted on twice before and lost. it is a tossup, people understanding the people running the unions are the true 1%. they give a lot of money to occupy wall street. rank-and-file members in their office around the capital around the white house. ashley: they would've gone out of business a long time of
from the union to the elected officials, backed the unions, back to the elected officials, and it is amazing how the money goes. $14 billion, that is the economy of a lot of countries, that is what the union is take in a year. ashley: this is interesting, they would bar unions from contributing to payroll deductions raising money for political campaigns, corporations as well. it doesn't have any impact on them, this is a direct attack on unions, what is your say on prop 32? >> it is a...
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clearly does not want those layoff notices delivered just days before the election. >> president obama downplaying expectations for wedneay's debate. saying he is an okay debater, according to a new washington post abc news poll, 55 percent of likely voters think that president will win this first debate, and 41% think that romney will win. joining me now, ed klein, author of "new york times" best seller "the amateur." great to see you, this is cute, the downplay, one of these, i can't think of another moment of modesty on the part of this president other than this example of trying to manage expectations. >> the golden-floated orator is bumbling,. lou: the idea he is such a heavy favorite to win the debate, that has to work in governor romney's favor. >> almost 6 out of 10 americans think that obama will take this debate, romney goes in as under dog with low expectations, if he does well, he will exceed those expectations. i think he has a good chance of winning this debate. lou: what about, you made it clear, you are not overly impressed with the mr. obama's capabilities, he is no bi
clearly does not want those layoff notices delivered just days before the election. >> president obama downplaying expectations for wedneay's debate. saying he is an okay debater, according to a new washington post abc news poll, 55 percent of likely voters think that president will win this first debate, and 41% think that romney will win. joining me now, ed klein, author of "new york times" best seller "the amateur." great to see you, this is cute, the downplay, one...
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every day to the election. if you see him give one good performance and the next day they're off message, it's more of what we've seen the bumbling along throughout the campaign. and i think for president obama the challenge is, as my former boss howard dean said, don't get irritable. it's going to be hard when governor romney is going to try to get him with his little zingers, to not get annoyed at the lack of searsneriousness an lack of actual facts. so i think most of us at this point are expecting, romney can have a mediocre performance and i think he will get good spin the next day. >> steve, the romney campaign is up against another difficulty in the poll which is the public's actual expectation at this point. the "washington post" poll shows that among likely voters, 55% of them expect president obama to win the debate. 31% expect mitt romney to win the debate. and presumably that expectation will color the way those viewers watch that debate. >> yeah. it could. i mean, maybe this is the one risk maybe t
every day to the election. if you see him give one good performance and the next day they're off message, it's more of what we've seen the bumbling along throughout the campaign. and i think for president obama the challenge is, as my former boss howard dean said, don't get irritable. it's going to be hard when governor romney is going to try to get him with his little zingers, to not get annoyed at the lack of searsneriousness an lack of actual facts. so i think most of us at this point are...
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the goal is to get elected and they will look at it and be like wtf was that. >> to use like a tennis metaphor, this was a hail mary pass. it is like what matt said, there is no way you will win. let's play it safe. bring in the zombies. maybe it will convince those who were never going to vote which is important. >> i found his relationship with the lamb to be slightly romantic at the end. >> i thought the strolling in the distance with the sun in the background, i kind of thought it looked like a roncom. >> why are you afraid of tenderness? >> i am not afraid of tenderness, but i don't know how i feel with it in a meal. >> it would be better if the lamb faced off with brian lamb. >> the american hero. >> he is an american hero and he is a subtle american hero. i love the way he talks. >> the main problem is it is a waste of money. dead people only vote democrat. >> way to bring it back. >>> from zombies to zelits are they being attacked because of how they act? pentagon officials believe that at least some of the 97 u.s. and nato troops murdered by afghan security forces over the pa
the goal is to get elected and they will look at it and be like wtf was that. >> to use like a tennis metaphor, this was a hail mary pass. it is like what matt said, there is no way you will win. let's play it safe. bring in the zombies. maybe it will convince those who were never going to vote which is important. >> i found his relationship with the lamb to be slightly romantic at the end. >> i thought the strolling in the distance with the sun in the background, i kind of...
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>> for god's sake if romney fails to meet those heavy expectations he will lose the general election creating chaos in the republican party and leave out 2016 -- oh! >> the jersey is strong in this one. >> so all these guys to have a mild familiarity with the english language and it is considered a win. can we hear from someone not affiliated with the campaigns, what their expectation might be? >> both men have a monumental undertaking for the first debate, one of them has to come off as nicer and less air began than he really is and the other has to be zero more normal and lestrange than he really is. >> jon: then how did we end up with these two idiots? look, we are not looking for coherent ideology, americans are just looking for assurance the next president isn't going to be a weirdo. who thinks she better than us. how exactly will romney counter the idea that he is awkward and not normal? >> mr. romney's team concluded the debates are about creating moments, the quick series of zingers he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. >> jon: they equipped him with
>> for god's sake if romney fails to meet those heavy expectations he will lose the general election creating chaos in the republican party and leave out 2016 -- oh! >> the jersey is strong in this one. >> so all these guys to have a mild familiarity with the english language and it is considered a win. can we hear from someone not affiliated with the campaigns, what their expectation might be? >> both men have a monumental undertaking for the first debate, one of them...
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he's not going to win the election with this debate. what he can do is to start setting a whole new narrative for him in this debate. that's what he can expect to accomplish. in the president's case, the president is going to have to deal with the economic numbers, have to deal with the libya issue. >> as a debater, how do you rate president obama? >> i think he's very good. i think both of them are playing the game. president obama was saying something the other day, i'm not really a good debater. gee, i don't really -- >> they're both very, very smart guys. >> if you talk about the top 1%, intellect, these guys are in the top 1%. there's nothing to choose between among intellect. there's a lot to choose between them on policy. i hope they get into a good discussion of policy because from my point of view i think romney would get the better of that but i'm not sure. we'll see. >> we looked at past debates. some folks seem to get into trouble when they start debating over the debate rules themselves. i want to play a quick montage of st
he's not going to win the election with this debate. what he can do is to start setting a whole new narrative for him in this debate. that's what he can expect to accomplish. in the president's case, the president is going to have to deal with the economic numbers, have to deal with the libya issue. >> as a debater, how do you rate president obama? >> i think he's very good. i think both of them are playing the game. president obama was saying something the other day, i'm not really...
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now we have a press that actively engages in the re-election. putting out a narrative that romney is a loser, you know running polls, they are using like telling n.i.v. adding on romney. romney is not my issue here. not only decide to sup obama on thisss the last two weeks, what we see is a press that has decided that it will not tell the american people the truth. not only tell people oho they may or mayot vote for but now telling people what truth they may know and what truth they may not know. >> what is the truth? look, we have covered this story responsibly here on the factor, alright? >> you have. >> but i only take it up to where the facts lie. and that's why i gave the time line. he other thing is unfortunately the folks don't care about this story they don't. the massemount of people watchabca. ws and listen toalk rao but just the folks watchin dancing with stars and nfl and world wling, they don't care about the libyan story. they libyan ambassador unrtare. >> iyoon,u tell them, meusthow will they care? this we had an incident where, y
now we have a press that actively engages in the re-election. putting out a narrative that romney is a loser, you know running polls, they are using like telling n.i.v. adding on romney. romney is not my issue here. not only decide to sup obama on thisss the last two weeks, what we see is a press that has decided that it will not tell the american people the truth. not only tell people oho they may or mayot vote for but now telling people what truth they may know and what truth they may not...